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Re: FFW - Wingnut's Backyard Boards

Post by ric_vidal » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:13 am

Wingy, are your blanks matching your shapes? By that I mean is the deck-line as close tolerance as possible, if it isn't, that won't be helping your deck compression strength.

For my first blank cut I sent the file off and they came back to me with the recommended blank(s) and rocker to best suit. Thereafter, you don't know what is being trimmed off.

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Post by ric_vidal » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:55 am

Had a look at your blog, W-nut, the compressions look as bad as my first ultra light PINK blank from Surfblanks for what that is worth. I'm using the same density again for the R-Tak with a very different build for that very reason.

Over-cut or mismatched blanks is an issue, I have seen some 'orrible practices from the biggest 'names'.

Do you know what blank manufacturer your guys are using? I think it is time to get very actively involved in the process.

Commercial glassing probably won't make much difference unless you really over sanded to buggery which is kind of hard to do to a deck or bottom flat.

Polyester resin cures fairly rapidly initially, then goes in a very gradual curve over a long time, so unless you are going to cure for a very long time, which you won't, may as well smash 'em early.

If light is your mantra, it might be worth calculating the other way, denser blank, lighter glass. 1 x 6oz versus 2 x 4 deck?

2oz Innegra under 4oz on the deck should give you a pretty strong outcome. As Huie recommends, don't wrap the Innegra. JD uses it fairly extensively as 3/4 length under skins.

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Post by pirate_agenda » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:40 am

wingnut - the innegra on the deck probably won't help much for denting - it does a better job of resisting cracks, snaps, ding and creases - but still dents.

I also probably wouldn't use it without vacuum, as it soaks up a lot of resin - meaning a good 6+4 lam is probably going to weigh the same be just as strong and cost a lot less.

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Post by ric_vidal » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:57 pm

pirate_agenda wrote:wingnut - the innegra on the deck probably won't help much for denting - it does a better job of resisting cracks, snaps, ding and creases - but still dents.
I've got a couple that say otherwise - dent resistance that is. Not that they don't dent, just nowhere near as much. But it needs to be used in combination, not as a substitute.

p-a is right, Wingy, Innegra is thristy, but if you are worried about weight you can use Innegra selectively i.e. just as impact patches.

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Re: FFW - Wingnut's Backyard Boards

Post by spork » Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:48 am

Call in Wingnut and I'll show you how to make a board that wont ding.......its called 'wood'. New space age material that literaly grows on trees. :-)(
When it gets to this level of self important stupidity I lose interest.
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Post by ric_vidal » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:47 am

wingnut2443 wrote:I'd hate to be on piece rates :roll:
Difference is, W-nut, a screen jockey probably does it in 15 minutes if they are motivated - repetition is the key to all things, and also the bane.

Looks good mate.

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Re: FFW - Wingnut's Backyard Boards

Post by saltman » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:21 pm

Matticus Finch wrote:Does your fee for glassing include sanding and plugs?
If so, $240 hardly seems enough, though I'm sure it gets easier and faster with experience it seems like a bargain really. Will be interesting for you to see the differences.
$240 is the going rate up here for casual glassing including sanding and plugs
The volume shapers like JS that outsource their glassing pay less than $200 per board

At $240 who could be stuffed learning to do it yourself !!
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Post by ric_vidal » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:05 am

wingnut2443 wrote:... now I'm back on the beers, it was very tempting to crack one while I was out there, but I know that special lady would be sure to visit :wink:
ha, they flowed fairly well where I worked for a while, but we did stick to the lighter varieties… can't be drink driving 'n all

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Re: FFW - Wingnut's Backyard Boards

Post by saltman » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:47 pm

Wingnut
The Bonzer is waiting for a lined up clean swell - and a return to health on my part - havent ridden it since Bali
should be able to surf a bit in the next 2 -3 weeks before I start the next phase of treatment

Drop me a line if you want to test drive the bonzer
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Post by saltman » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:41 am

Thanks Dean
Yep booked into Anga late next week - the winds and swell look better each day we get closer so will take the Bonzer as well as the 5-8
Will chase a few small ones locally this week with a super fit mate of mine as insurance
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Post by ric_vidal » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:06 am

Hey wingy, you sure you didn't over sand that board? I don't recall seeing cracks on the underside of the rail like that and I've seen some horribly compressed tails.

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Re: FFW - Wingnut's Backyard Boards

Post by saltman » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:24 am

Wingnut you asked about slaters boards somewhere else not sure if it was here or another blog
. I got to spend 45 mins chatting to him and checking his boards the last sunday of quiky pro - he had 3 boards he was rotating through on a NC back beach

They were all 5-8 18.25 2.25
All glassed in epoxy
All set up as per McKees 5 fin formula (I asked if he tweaked the fin set up at all - he No why bother when Bruce has done all the hard work )
low gradual rockers and single to double concave not extreme
the rails were quite fine
overall volume was around 25L - 26L
He had 2 rounded pins (one set up as thruster the other quad) and one squash tail quad - pretty sure it was labelled a Fred Rubble
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Post by ric_vidal » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:03 am

You wouldn't 'see' it on good production boards, but the reality is they just top up any over-sands or shiny spots with a bit of UV or clear acrylic spray and give it a tune up that way.

Not uncommon to see 'some' weave around plugs but if they have doubled up the cloth, as they should, then it should be strong enough. I'd be more concerned with strength than appearance, give it a gently squeeze and make sure they haven't egg shelled it.

Wouldn't be overly concerned with the dry patch.

Otherwise, yeah a bit disappointing considering you paid full freight.

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Post by diggerdickson » Tue May 07, 2013 1:40 pm

wingnut, I was around your area a little while ago but only stayed 30 minutes as the banks were stuffed. Hopefully will catch up on the way down. I love it that your still shaping and cant wait to see more pics mate. I follow the thread but just don't post much any more. Love ya work
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Post by diggerdickson » Fri May 17, 2013 12:19 am

nothing wingnut, IM still dreaming of shaping again and my missus agrees that once we stop travelling I can get a container and stick it somewhere to shape out of, but that will be quite a while I think. Im tossing the idea around of getting and playing with aku shaper as Im over not mucking around with a blank.
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Post by diggerdickson » Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:10 pm

great blog
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Re: FFW - Wingnut's Backyard Boards

Post by saltman » Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:48 am

Two newies PU glassed in epoxy
a 6-3 Mr super twin style for a 80Kg 50 yo
and a 5-4 funboard for a 60kg 16 yo
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Re: FFW - Wingnut's Backyard Boards

Post by saltman » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:45 pm

How the heck do you get pics to display properly??
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