Hollow Biscuit

Discuss shaping and repairing techniques here.

Moderators: collnarra, PeepeelaPew, Butts, Shari

User avatar
spork
barnacle
Posts: 1276
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:01 pm

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by spork » Tue May 08, 2012 7:25 pm

DSC_0001.jpg
The blocks are set in a bed of epoxy to ensure they don't let water in and to be sure they are strong
DSC_0001.jpg (35.57 KiB) Viewed 4965 times
DSC_0004.jpg
You should be able to see the cove and curve in this pic, the rail is already taking shape.
DSC_0004.jpg (36.6 KiB) Viewed 4965 times
DSC_0005.jpg
The manual says to use an iron and a wet rag to steam the rails, but I struggled with this, maybe the wifes iron was not up to it! so i used the kettle and set the rail in the steam and that worked perfectly.
DSC_0005.jpg (35.17 KiB) Viewed 4965 times
When it gets to this level of self important stupidity I lose interest.
Roy Stewart

User avatar
spork
barnacle
Posts: 1276
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:01 pm

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by spork » Fri May 11, 2012 9:20 am

Have been gluing on the rail strips this week. Its very time consuming but easy enough once you get the idea. I'v also been making tail and nose blocks out of left over timber.
When it gets to this level of self important stupidity I lose interest.
Roy Stewart

User avatar
spork
barnacle
Posts: 1276
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:01 pm

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by spork » Fri May 11, 2012 5:52 pm

DSC_0007.JPG
The final rail strip is glued into place
Ha! the kettle works like a beauty, it won't be employed when I'm bending the deck boards though, I'll have to go back to the wet cloth and iron method.
DSC_0007.JPG
The final rail strip is glued into place
DSC_0008.JPG
Laminated strips will grace the nose
DSC_0008.JPG (36.06 KiB) Viewed 4894 times
DSC_0010.JPG
Plane the bottom in line with the rail chine
DSC_0011.JPG
The top and the side of the rails are planed and sanded into a rough shape. Pretty happy with the cedar rail strip which has added contrast and interest to the outline
When it gets to this level of self important stupidity I lose interest.
Roy Stewart

User avatar
dUg
barnacle
Posts: 1858
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2004 8:22 am
Location: sitting in my car waiting for someone else to paddle out first

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by dUg » Sat May 12, 2012 12:15 pm

that's really starting to look the shiz spork.

so the rails are like a "clinker" construction? like a series of spars bent into shape and all pushed together flush, then sanded smooth?

User avatar
spork
barnacle
Posts: 1276
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:01 pm

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by spork » Sat May 12, 2012 6:56 pm

Yes dUG, though they don't lap over each other like a clinker, rather they are coved (concave) on the bottom and rounded (convex) on the top and they fit together tightly. They twist as they go from front to back and eventually lay flat in the top, you can see this in the pics above. The tops are then planed flat to alighn with the top of the cross spars. This will form a long scarf joint for the top boards to glue on to. I'v been shaping the bottom of the rails and making sure I get the tucked under edge starting in the right place. I am fortunate that the CI biscuit has the same bottom and rail shape as my MSF (Machado single fin) with the exception if a softer rails in the tail in the MSF. This has been a huge bonus for me as I have been using the supplied rail profiles, which fit the MSF exactly, and a profile guage to ensure that both sides are the identical. Pics tomorow when I get the rails right.
When it gets to this level of self important stupidity I lose interest.
Roy Stewart

daryl
Huey's Right Hand
Posts: 27148
Joined: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:23 pm

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by daryl » Sun May 13, 2012 2:45 pm

Irons do not get as hot as they used to, it was a safety measure.

User avatar
spork
barnacle
Posts: 1276
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:01 pm

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by spork » Mon May 14, 2012 5:07 pm

What a weekend! excellent surf, a nice lunch at the Town Green Inn with my wife, a few Coronas and a lot of time spent planing wood while listening to music, seeing the board taking shape, then dinner with the family on sunday night sipping a nice verdhelo.
DSC_0014.JPG
The rail profiles are excellent and I will be able to get them spot on
DSC_0014.JPG (25.76 KiB) Viewed 4815 times
DSC_0016.JPG
The top of the rail strips are planed flat to accept the top boards
DSC_0016.JPG (40.84 KiB) Viewed 4815 times
DSC_0021.JPG
Many clamps later and the deck is on!!
DSC_0021.JPG (36.22 KiB) Viewed 4815 times
When it gets to this level of self important stupidity I lose interest.
Roy Stewart

Beanpole
That's Not Believable
Posts: 68684
Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:21 am
Location: Button Factory

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by Beanpole » Mon May 14, 2012 6:30 pm

Get that spokeshave moving spork.
How thick is the top layer?
Put your big boy pants on
I mean, tastebuds? WGAF?

User avatar
spork
barnacle
Posts: 1276
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:01 pm

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by spork » Mon May 14, 2012 8:16 pm

Using a spokeshave is a lost art imho, i last used one to shape the neck of a guitar. The deck is about 6mm at its thickest but it will vary across the length and width.
When it gets to this level of self important stupidity I lose interest.
Roy Stewart

User avatar
offshore1
Duke Status
Posts: 17648
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:40 am

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by offshore1 » Tue May 15, 2012 6:26 am

well if it doesn't surf well it might make a decent bass fiddle.
Looks like you're having a good time sporkles but damn. Puts roy to shame.
marauding mullet wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 6:03 pm
Jesus I’m surrounded by schnitzel tards.

User avatar
spork
barnacle
Posts: 1276
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:01 pm

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by spork » Tue May 15, 2012 11:36 am

I'tl surf just fine, I owned the same board in glass and loved it, also my CI Gravy is basically the same board only thinner and much lighter. I though Roy was a boat builder?
When it gets to this level of self important stupidity I lose interest.
Roy Stewart

User avatar
ric_vidal
Snowy McAllister
Posts: 6124
Joined: Wed Apr 28, 2004 4:34 pm

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by ric_vidal » Tue May 15, 2012 1:41 pm

spork wrote:I though Roy was a boat builder?
Ouch! :D

Lovely work, sporkles.

User avatar
spork
barnacle
Posts: 1276
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:01 pm

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by spork » Tue May 15, 2012 6:27 pm

Its starting to take shape.
Attachments
DSC_0023.JPG
The nose has been attached and sanded tp roughly the correct shape. I loving the look of the bottom
DSC_0023.JPG (26.78 KiB) Viewed 4722 times
DSC_0022.JPG
The top is not so pretty,it still needs a bit more sanding to straighten it up.
DSC_0022.JPG (26.26 KiB) Viewed 4722 times
When it gets to this level of self important stupidity I lose interest.
Roy Stewart

Quangers
Local
Posts: 589
Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:55 pm
Location: down a secluded bush track

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by Quangers » Tue May 15, 2012 9:03 pm

That is looking great. I woulld love to see how you are doing the fins - are they going to be glassed on or a system fin?

Jorgo
Local
Posts: 704
Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:13 pm
Location: The Points up North

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by Jorgo » Wed May 16, 2012 11:18 am

Spork - loving watching this all come together. Sure looks nice job too - though I'll be there have been moments of "jeezus, should I do it this way or that ? Will I take a little more or a little less off!!" The old adage of measure twice and cut once and dont rush seems to echo in my ears.
On the pic of the Rail templates - i'm intrugued. They are numbered #2, #4, etc. ARe there #1s and #3s too. And I cant make it out in the pic - what are the measurements on the ply? Is it #2 so far from the nose etc down the board starting at the nose? :?

User avatar
spork
barnacle
Posts: 1276
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:01 pm

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by spork » Wed May 16, 2012 12:17 pm

The fins are FCS, you will see the blocks in the pic above that the plugs will go into. That is the all the rail templates, although there is also nose,tail, tailshape, nose shape and nose rocker templates. They are measured in inches from the tail, look carefully and you can see it written on the ply. It took me a while to find a tape measure with inches on it, bloody yanks are in the dark ages. I have made so many booboo's, that I'm going to write em all up when I'm finished. Hopefully that will help anyone else having a go at making something similar.
When it gets to this level of self important stupidity I lose interest.
Roy Stewart

User avatar
spork
barnacle
Posts: 1276
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:01 pm

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by spork » Wed May 16, 2012 6:41 pm

The shape is pretty much all there, just got to straighten out a few kinks. The tail block is glued on and will be shaped tomorrow.
DSC_0024.JPG
its a big chunk of cedar and balsa hanging off the tail
DSC_0024.JPG (34.08 KiB) Viewed 4646 times
When it gets to this level of self important stupidity I lose interest.
Roy Stewart

User avatar
spork
barnacle
Posts: 1276
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:01 pm

Re: Hollow Biscuit

Post by spork » Thu May 17, 2012 6:26 pm

Still sanding and planing wood, the tail is looking heaps better and the nose is pretty much finished. Sanding and shaping a wooden board is a bit easier than a foam board imho, at least for non pro's, because the wood is more resitant so its actually harder to take off too much. The next few days will be slow going so I don't stuff it up and sand throught the timber.
When it gets to this level of self important stupidity I lose interest.
Roy Stewart

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests