It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by shaunmorrison » Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:02 am

alakaboo wrote:Fair enough Shaun.
I doubt many people changed their plans but you at least present your case.
I actually think that 'directing' people to places which are already pretty well known saves other gems for those willing to explore.
I think the breaks we are talking about have natural limits based on accommodation and travel but if it reduces the chance of sneaky shoulder season sessions then you may have a point.
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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by shaunmorrison » Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:05 am

Davros wrote:Now your just being a bit silly SM.
Yes I am, but then so were you :)

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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by steve shearer » Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:06 am

Apologies if you were just taking the piss.
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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by shaunmorrison » Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:07 am

steve shearer wrote:Selling information? I wrote it for free here in the weather and forecasting thread where I reckon at the most optimistic reading maybe thirty people read it. I said it was uncrowded specifically so one or two of those thirty might put Cloudbreak on the list. Cloudbreak is one of the most iconic and publicized waves on the planet, Tavurua is booked out years in advance. But you already knew that, sounds like you've just got some rusty old axe to grind.
I paid for the trip out ofy own coin and very much enjoyed surfing with the other people I met on the trip.
You might not be as much of a dill in real life as you sound like on here Shaun but my gut feeling is you could use some help. Keep barking up this tree if you like but I won't be responding: life's too short to waste time dealing with dickheads on the Internet.
Well I certainly wont be trying your slab a day therapy.

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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by shaunmorrison » Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:29 am

steve shearer wrote:Apologies if you were just taking the piss.
Yes. I'm always taking the piss, but it is still my opinion

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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by ctd » Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:29 pm

Do you ever read a guidebook or check TripAdvisor before you travel? Why are waves any different?

Localism just means that because you have been granted a privileged position, with the time, finances and ability to learn about a wave, no one else should have that opportunity or even be informed about the prospect. Transfer that to any other part of life or society and see how the principle holds up. I understand the feeling, everyone is selfish. Heck, entire political parties are built on upholding and defending privilege. But not ones I support. We are trying to go beyond a society of secret handshakes and whispers between the 'right' kind of people.

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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by shaunmorrison » Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:40 pm

Localisms good for surfing mate, you just have to learn to work with it, or around it depending on the circumstances. Different breaks have different brands of localism going on, depends on the culture.

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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by foamy » Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:47 pm

The Aussie big wave surfer, Camel, who comments on Swellnet says he keeps his mouth shut but when he sees his relatively obscure SA & WA desert spots get media exposure he fearfully awaits the crowds. Doesn't happen. Just the same old crews turn up. He reckons it is a bit of a false fear.
People mostly already know. The close and easily accessible spots are already crowded. The far away spots are still too far away for most.

Accurate wave forecasting is probably a bigger factor. People know when to turn up.
As a separate point, if a spot has tourism facilities then it is not a secret.

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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by Davros » Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:03 pm

I was

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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by shaunmorrison » Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:37 pm

foamy wrote:The Aussie big wave surfer, Camel, who comments on Swellnet says he keeps his mouth shut but when he sees his relatively obscure SA & WA desert spots get media exposure he fearfully awaits the crowds. Doesn't happen. Just the same old crews turn up. He reckons it is a bit of a false fear.
People mostly already know. The close and easily accessible spots are already crowded. The far away spots are still too far away for most.

Accurate wave forecasting is probably a bigger factor. People know when to turn up.
As a separate point, if a spot has tourism facilities then it is not a secret.
Yeah Foamy, dunno about camel these days, a while ago he was found at one of those quiet spots with his own film crew, and his reasoning was when asked wtf are you doing? Well I gotto make a living some how. These particular places it is not so much the amount of waves it is the crap and the erosion from more people camping.

Accurate wave forecasts only really help if you know the spot really well.

I know a few places with tourist facilities with great waves that the average punter would not pick.

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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by Davros » Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:51 pm

Like?

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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by shaunmorrison » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:24 pm

Davros I am not going to tell you where those waves are just to prove a point, I'm an uneducated buffon not stupid. :)

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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by marauding mullet » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:47 pm

Camel, a west australian, now made to feel less than welcome in some spots in SA, shame.
What happened to just going surfing ffs.
Same for those other guys behaving like a bull in a china shop, Bonython and Schmucker.
They try to rationalise what they do but the people whose lifestyles are affected know how short sighted and exploitive some "surf journalism" is.
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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by 8 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:56 pm

shaunmorrison wrote:Davros I am not going to tell you where those waves are just to prove a point, I'm an uneducated buffon not stupid. :)
I reckon you're full of it.... such places don't exist and never will. However if you want to prove me wrong....

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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by foamy » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:01 pm

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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by steve shearer » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:25 pm

What's localism got to do with surfing Cloudbreak?
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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by shaunmorrison » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:31 pm

steve shearer wrote: Keep barking up this tree if you like but I won't be responding: life's too short to waste time dealing with dickheads on the Internet.
Thought you weren't responding, say one thing do another, well we should be talking about the weather shouldn't we? :wink:

You do realize that most people on the internet and probably a higher percentage on surfing forums are dickheads, so it is not just me your insulting.
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Re: It's a marathon not a sprint, Spring '15

Post by shaunmorrison » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:34 pm

8 wrote:
shaunmorrison wrote:Davros I am not going to tell you where those waves are just to prove a point, I'm an uneducated buffon not stupid. :)
I reckon you're full of it.... such places don't exist and never will. However if you want to prove me wrong....
Yes I am! No I wont! :-D-:

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