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daryl: I must be mixed up, but didn't Darwin say it was the most beautiful harbour in the world, I take it he wasn't with COOK. According to Wikipedia: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Jackson The first recorded European discovery of Sydney Harbour, was by Lt James Cook in 1770 - Cook named the i...

Thank you to all correspondents for the interesting information. Special thanks to carvin marvin for the invaluable SW article and photographs. Apart from Sydney Airport, several other large swell "inside" breaks have been noted in the thread. From memory: an article in Tracks (1980s?) called these ...

I recently had correspondence about surfing on the northern shore of Botany Bay in the 1960s. Robert wrote (edited): “G'day, I came across your site while searching for pics of surfing inside Botany Bay. Impossible to locate but proof of life is demanded by my sons who I remind constantly that I use...

Oh my god, oh my god, gotta ask a question before the dreaded 6000 guillotine comes down! (Spoken in the voice of Homer Simpson, with definitely no ontological implications). Nick: 1. In your interview with Kurungabaa (July 30 2008) you noted: “I can’t say I’ve read a great book about surfing yet. T...

Post #13 1. Roy: “Were trees of that diameter available?” [/i] No doubt trees were available in widths in excess of 3 feet and greatly prized for the construction of large canoes. As previously noted: 7.e “Extremely large trees were a highly valuable resource, particularly if the dimensions were su...

Post #11 re: “Since maximum board width is essentially limited by the width of the rider’s shoulders, surfboards in excess of 24 inches would be simply impractical.” Roy Stewart: “That's absolute nonsense, I've been riding boards of 27 to 29 inches wide since last century, and they paddle very well...

Post #10 Roy: “Your so called analysis consisted of an unjustified ad hominem (sic, ad homonym) attack on the person (sic) who reported that olo boards were reserved for royalty, followed by a statement that the reason why this is not true is because in Hawaii surfing was for everyone.” and “you st...

Post #11 mustkillmulloway wrote: “The largest of the Hawaiian wood surfboards, reserved for royalty was the 'Olo' board. These were the giants of the day at 18' and believed to have reached lengths of 25 feet. Surf History Preservation Collection P.O. Box 5637 Hilo, Hawaii 96720 (808)264-2659 does ...

Post #10 1. re: “It's my thread …” Roy: “Out of context, my tongue in cheek comment was in reponse (sic, response) to YOU trying to order us that the thread take a certain direction .” a. The quotation is direct and complete. The claim that it is “out of context” is clearly incorrect. b. Your compl...

Post #9 Mr. Stewart, As you have clearly declined the opportunity to reply to my previous questions, I am forced to conclude at present that: 1. Roy Stewart is not fluent in the Hawaiian language. 2. Roy Stewart is unable or unwilling to post the original correspondence that initiated his post. 3. ...

Ladies and Gentlemen, Apologies for attempting to redirect this thread back to its original subject (any one remember "What does the word 'olo' mean?" ), however I am still patiently awaiting a response from Mr. Stewart to my last post (#8, page 9) on this topic. If we wish to continue this latest d...

Post #8 Roy, thank you for the (as usual) rapid, lucid and insightful response to my recent post (#7). I have a few brief questions. 1. Roy: “Ultimately you are attempting to kill the Hawaiian language by sterilising it in a virtual glass case” [/i] Are you fluent in the Hawaiian language? 2. Your ...

Post #7 1. re: The argument from authority. Roy: “I did not attempt to convince you of any proposition or use an argument of the form X therefore Y, in fact I did not offer an argument at all, merely a report or an assertion. I merely stated that Y is true, and how I came to believe that Y is true....

POST #6. 1. re: The argument from authority. Roy: “That wasn't an argument from authority because it wasn't an argument. I merely reported my experience and did not suggest that it should alter your thinking in any way.” [/i] This is a most unsatisfactory interpretation of your own words. Clearly y...

Dear Roy, While I patiently anticipate your latest response to my latest “What does olo mean?” post, I have time to contemplate some other, perhaps trivial, issues that you have recently commented upon. These are not my preferred areas of discussion such as history or etymology, but possibly are bes...

Post #4. 1. re: I can only comment that I perceive neither the connection nor the unicorn (at the bottom of the garden). If that is an attempt at an argument, it's invalid. Your inability to see a connection does not mean that no connection exists. It is impossible to construct any valid argument t...

1. re: It is not the definitions that are naïve/spurious, but your connection ( “this led to derivative meanings ”) of the two. “The connection seems clear to me. There is no reasoning given for your claim that the connection is spurious.” I understand that you perceive a connection. You may also p...

1. Apologies to all those who have responded to this post (particularly jimmy1501 and otway1949) for continuing what is a frustrating and, in all probability, a pointless exercise. 2. Roy Stewart replied: “You are making a mistake in assuming that what a word means is the same as some specific chara...